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Russia's official coronavirus death toll is many times lower compared to many countries in Western Europe. I wonder how much of it is due to the population most vulnerable to the virus being already dead from other causes.

I mean, easily a third of all cases in the US are from deaths in nursing homes -- mostly elderly men. Life expectancy for men in Russia is still 65 (a decade ago it was 58). I know there's probably number fudging going on, but it doesn't explain such huge discrepancy.

@monsieuricon

There have been rumours that a good chunk of their deaths have been officially listed as a more generic "respiratory illness", so seeing if that category has spiked would be a good starting point.

@Nezchan I don't think that entirely explains it. A significant spike in deaths would be hard to hide in Russia (everyone's a whistleblower these days, it seems), so I expect that, in fact, the numbers are much lower than in other countries.

@Nezchan, the funny thing that my source in one of the clinics in a small city told me the opposite.

If you'll get flu right now in some small city in Russia, they'll consider it (means write down in paper also) as COVID-related even before test.

But I also need to notice, that if you have some serious illness like the last stage cancer (means you'll suppose to die anyway soon), then they'll write down that you were infected with COVID, but not include as a COVID death.

@monsieuricon

@monsieuricon, mortality is actually more or less the same everywhere.

The only difference is that in Russia they perform mass testing, and in some other European countries like Spain it's still almost impossible to get tested if you're not dying.

So, in the end, you have in one country 270k cases that include only people who were hospitalized, and in other 250k cases that includes only 15% of people that were actually hospitalized and more than half is asymptomatic.

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